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« on: June 22, 2008, 04:29:54 pm »

Any fan of Zelda knows that the games have never really been revealed as having a timeline. In other words, the series is a confusing puzzle, and you can never really tell which game goes where. I mean, there are obvious orders: Ocarina of Time is probably first, and thats where the timeline splits. Majora's Mask comes right after Ocarina of Time in Child Link's world. Link's Awakening occurs right after A Link to the Past. Adventure of Link takes place right after Legend of Zelda. Phantom Hourglass comes right after Wind Waker, and Wind Waker occurs several hundred, or thousand, years after Ocarina of Time in the Adult Link timeline.

Other than that... do any of you have any theories about the specific order?
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2008, 04:54:58 am »

To add to that the Oracle games have to come after Link to the Past (It's all to do with location of Triforce Wink)

My own inclination goes like this....

         -------WW-PH----LoZ-AoL---ALttP-OoA-OoS-LA
OoT<
        MM--TP---TMC-------------FS-FSA

Not too sure about LoZ of AoL as I have never played them and the foursword games could be anywhere (but I'm pretty sure its near LttP on) timeline.
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2008, 09:21:53 am »

To add to that the Oracle games have to come after Link to the Past (It's all to do with location of Triforce Wink)

My own inclination goes like this....

         -------WW-PH----LoZ-AoL---ALttP-OoA-OoS-LA
OoT<
        MM--TP---TMC-------------FS-FSA

Not too sure about LoZ of AoL as I have never played them and the foursword games could be anywhere (but I'm pretty sure its near LttP on) timeline.
Tell me if there's any problems with this version and show me you're own.

The only real problem is LoZ, AoL, ALttP, OoA, OoS, and LA can't take place after WW. They could be on that end of the spectrum, but they can't take place after it, because

A) They all take place in Hyrule, and after WW, Hyrule is no more
B) Ganondorf is dead by the end of WW, and can't come back unless someone goes under water to revive him.

But, I do think LoZ and AoL have to be in the Child Link timeline, because, as WW/PH end the Adult Link timeline, AoL ends a timeline, because Ganon is dead and a plot to revive him has been thwarted, and the very first Princess Zelda is revived, so the curse is broken, so no more Princess Zeldas after her.

Or at least, those are my theories. I once thought TP was in the adult Link timeline, but perhaps not now that I think of it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 09:29:04 am »

Made a mistake! LoZ and AoL should be after LA. Thanks for noticing.
Hmmm Ganon is turned to stone after WW not dead. I feel this is like another form of sealing away, not destruction. ALttP has to be on the Adult line. It states clearly that Ganon was sealed in the Golden Realm sometime in the past, which only happened in the Adult linw.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2008, 10:07:27 am »

i bet at some point in the wind waker series ganondorf will be revived.
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2008, 10:12:32 am »

DOES NOT COMPUTE!.....or, um, I mean huh?
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2008, 11:21:24 am »

Neat theory

But that hinges completely on the "Split timeline" theory

Which I don't think works

Now, what I reckon is:

OOT
 -->MM

[The triforce splits when OOT Link leaves Hyrule. Ganon somehow gets out, kills one of the sages and is sent to the twilight realm. Could TP Link be descended from OOT Link and MALON? There's the whole ranch thing, and Epona's song hinting at that. Oh, and the Temple of Time crumbles to rubble, and is absorbed into the Lost Woods]

TP

[Ganondorf gets out AGAIN, and this time he isn't defeated. Hyrule floods]

WW
 -->PH

[When Ganondorf turns to stone, his spirit is trapped in the dark world - where the Triforce also went as Hyrule was destroyed. The many centuries in the Dark World mutate him permenently into his pig form. Meanwhile, the flood waters recede over many years]

LTTP
 -->LA

[The retrieved Triforce is placed deep in Hyrule castle]

OOA/OOS

[As the Triforce sends Oracles Link to far-off realms, it splits apart in order to send its courage portion with him]

LOZ
 -->AOL

[It's unclear what happens, besides the Master Sword being stuck into a large chest and enshrined. Ganon seems to return somehow, that too is yet to be explained. His Trident from LTTP is also enshrined in a pyramid]

MC
 -->4S
   -->4SA

There are a couple of holes in this, but it seems to work better than most theories. Bear in mind that much of the timeline is yet to be revealed, and so there is no way of knowing how accurate any theories are

Random bit of trivia: only in Four Swords Adventures is the protagonist called Link; the other heroes are named by the player
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2008, 11:58:00 am »

I think you have a good timeline there. The split timeline theory seems to be the widely accepted one but yours is good too.

At least the Metroid series has a timeline that's easier to work out.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2008, 01:07:02 pm »

One gaping hole. Ganon has triforce in OoT. He dosen't in TP (at first anyway). They cannot be on the same timeline. OoT showed the rise of Ganon. TP also showed his rise.

Also Aonuma and Miyamoto (no idea if that's right spelling....) said themselves that the timeline split. TP was obviously made with this in mind....
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2008, 11:07:20 am »

Hey, I didn't know that the creators actually said the split timeline was true.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 12:32:56 pm »

Yeah, they were discussing TP and Miyamoto said it happened 100 years after OoT. Then Aonuma asked him  what timeline it was on, child or adult.
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2008, 02:33:45 am »

Well there's the proof.

Still, knowing Hypnotoad, he'll probably think his timeline's better.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2008, 02:38:07 am »

It IS!!!

But if I have to, I can adapt it to the whole "split" thing

There's a chance they just released that comment to incite fan-response, that happens a lot

(a good example is the "cheese man" from Buffy the Vampire Slayer
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2008, 03:10:59 am »

Well I suppose I guessed right then.
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2008, 07:51:12 am »

I used to stubbornly believe in the single timeline but I had to accept there was no way it could be true. The split theory just fits so well. You have to put in a lot of crazy events to make the single line possible.
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